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Problema: Masterizzateore dvd-rw

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Problema: Masterizzateore dvd-rw

Postdi embassy » 12/12/05 19:29

allara ho un masterizzatore dvd LG GSA-4120B
ieri ho comprato due dvd-rw della verbatim.. faccio per masterizzare con NERO 6 e mi esce questo messaggio
Inizio Scrittura a 5x
Disco Illegibile
Non è possibile utilizzare il disc-at-once
scrittura fallita

solo che io nn posso selezionare la modalità di scrittura come la abilito di default e settata su disc-at-once

Se invece cerco di cancellare il disco mi dice :
Questo disco non è rescivibile e pertatno non puo essere cancellato.
Inserire un disco riscrivibile

questo se puo aiutare/mi è il LOG
..
..
1A20-020E-0000-1349-1210-6697*

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 17/07/2002 8.20.56
ahead WinASPI: File 'D:\Programmi\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 16/12/2003 19.18.06
Versione Nero: 6.3.1.12 (Nero Express)
Masterizzatore: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B>Versione: A115 - HA 0 TA 2 - 6.3.1.12
Driver Adattatore: <nvatabus> HA 0
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B>Versione: A115 - HA 0 TA 2 - 6.3.1.12
Driver Adattatore: <nvatabus> HA 0

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y080L0 nvatabus Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B nvatabus Port 0 ID 2 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : SONY CD-RW CRX220E1 nvatabus Port 0 ID 3 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6L200M0 nvatabus Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
OtherPeripheral : SI Pseudo Device 0000 Si3114r5 Port 3 ID 31 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a sojuscsi Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120 E: CDRom0
SONY CD-RW CRX220E1 F: CDRom1
AXV CD/DVD-ROM H: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1048048kB)
Free physical memory: 656MB (672244kB)
Memory in use : 35 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

12.12.2005
Compilation ISO
18.58.47 #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6065
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

18.58.48 #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

18.58.48 #3 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

18.58.48 #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3167
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

18.58.49 #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Last possible write address on media: 2297887 (510:38.37, 4488MB)
Last address to be written: 281151 ( 62:28.51, 549MB)

18.58.49 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

18.58.49 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2137
Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B, Media type: DVD-RW
Disc Manufacturer: MKM 01 - RW6X01
Disc Application Code: 2, Disc Physical Code: 214

18.58.49 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 418
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

18.58.49 #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 281152 (281152) = #281152/62:28.52
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 281152 blocks [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B]
--------------------------------------------------------------

18.58.49 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 982
Prepare recorder [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 575799296, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
281152 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

18.58.49 #11 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Inizio ottimizzazione file

18.58.50 #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4177
Cache writing successful.

18.58.50 #13 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Ottimizzazione file completata

18.58.50 #14 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Inizio scrittura a 5x (6.925 KB/s)

18.58.50 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2345
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

18.58.50 #16 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1694
Set remaining time: 2:38,868 (158868ms) -> OK

18.58.50 #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1833
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

18.58.50 #18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 20173
Set BUFE: supported -> ON

18.58.50 #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 1974
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

18.58.50 #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8063
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-RW (3), Part Version: 3
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26127F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 30 10 20 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 03 12 00 00 00 00 .0..............
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

18.58.50 #21 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1187
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 2, LUN 0
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x53 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x04 0x4A 0x40 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x10
0x53 0x00 0x00 0x0D 0x30 0x05

18.58.50 #22 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1607
Disco illegale

18.58.50 #23 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1607
Non è possibile utilizzare il Disc At Once

18.58.50 #24 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1694
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

18.58.50 #25 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Scrittura fallita a 5x (6.925 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 17/07/2002 7.53.02
File 'Drivers\nvatabus.sys': Ver=5.10.2600.0475 built by: WinDDK, size=86144 bytes, created 03/11/2004 21.58.20 (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

provo allora con CdBurnerXp Pro 3 visto in precedenza incompatibilita con i supporti - e l'accoppiata Nero/LG

ma mi esce questo errore
Writing error (3): Error erasin disc (quando tento di cancellarlo)
Unkno error use extended data for more information (1051).
Error Sense Data: SENSE KEY:5 ASC:30 ASCQ:5
messaggio analogo quando tanto di scrivere

ps la cancellazione con questo programma nonostante l'ìerrore parte ma dopo arrivato al 100% continua ad andare avanti senza fermarsi...

pps ho installato gli aspi e il masterizzatore è settato come UDMA2

che faccio
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Postdi embassy » 17/12/05 11:51

nessuno ha idee???? :(
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Postdi quizface » 17/12/05 13:58

Dal log sembra che il DMA sia su off e non UDMA2

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y080L0 nvatabus Port 0 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B nvatabus Port 0 ID 2 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : SONY CD-RW CRX220E1 nvatabus Port 0 ID 3 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6L200M0 nvatabus Port 2 ID 0 DMA: Off
OtherPeripheral : SI Pseudo Device 0000 Si3114r5 Port 3 ID 31 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a sojuscsi Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off


sei sicuri di avere i driver del chipset della tua scheda mdre?

Che firmware monti? l' A117 lo trovi qui'

Cosa cerchi di masterizzare e in che modo?

18.58.49 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 982
Prepare recorder [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO


E' un file immagine?
Se non siete sicuri di quello che scrivete, non scrivete niente, nessuno vi obbliga ed eviterete di confondere chi gia' e' confuso. Ciao..ciao

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Postdi embassy » 23/12/05 10:40

per quando rigurda la modalita UDMA: in effeti da windows la tendina di scelata è disabilitata, ma "in grigio" su UDMA2, ma la gestione è lasciata la BIOS, potrebbe essere questo il problema??? provo a togliere il potere al bios e a lsciarlo al S.O.???

si per i driver del chipset... ma per siscurezza ho un modo scientifico per verificarlo?

il frimware è il A115

ho rpvato a masterizzare sia dati che immagini ...

CMQ il problema che pensavo fosse dovuto al supporto essendo un -RW mi si è riverificato oggi con un +RW sempre con lo stesso errore

dicedomi che non posso usare la modalità DICS-AT-ONCE... perchè nn posso usarla? è per via della modalità (DMA) che è disabilitata da win?
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Postdi embassy » 27/12/05 10:21

BUON NATALE A TUTTI anche se in ritardo^^

un aiutino di natale... qui la sistazione nn milgiora ho spuntato "il potere" al bios... ora posso scegliere le modalità da windows ma:
-nn riesco ancora a masterizzare sia + che -
-nn riesco a cambiare modalità di scrittura... mi resta sempre disc-at-once

uffa :roll:
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Postdi embassy » 28/12/05 22:38

allora sono riuscito ad abilitare la modalità DMA

..
..
1A20-020E-0000-1349-1210-6697*

Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=45056 bytes, created 17/07/2002 8.20.56
ahead WinASPI: File 'D:\Programmi\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 16/12/2003 20.18.06
Versione Nero: 6.3.1.12 (Nero Express)
Masterizzatore: <HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B>Versione: A115 - HA 5 TA 0 - 6.3.1.12
Driver Adattatore: <atapi> HA 5
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: <AXV CD/DVD-ROM >Versione: 2.2a - HA 7 TA 0 - 6.3.1.12
Driver Adattatore: <sojuscsi> HA 7

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6Y080L0 atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : Maxtor 6L200M0 atapi Port 3 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B atapi Port 5 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY CD-RW CRX220E1 atapi Port 5 ID 1 DMA: On
OtherPeripheral : SI Pseudo Device 0000 Si3114r5 Port 6 ID 31 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a sojuscsi Port 7 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120 E: CDRom0
SONY CD-RW CRX220E1 F: CDRom1
AXV CD/DVD-ROM H: CDRom2
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1023MB (1048048kB)
Free physical memory: 683MB (699892kB)
Memory in use : 33 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

28.12.2005
Compilation ISO
22.32.37 #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6065
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : FALSE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : FALSE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

22.32.37 #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running

22.32.37 #3 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3899
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

22.32.37 #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3167
Turn on Disc-at-once, using DVD media

22.32.37 #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 245
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28, 4482MB)
Last address to be written: 9679 ( 2:09.04, 18MB)

22.32.37 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 257
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

22.32.37 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2137
Recorder: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B, Media type: DVD+RW
Disc Manufacturer ID: PHILIPS, Media Type ID: RW8, Product revision number: 0
Disc Application Code: 0, Extended Information Indicators: 3

22.32.37 #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 418
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

22.32.37 #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 813
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 9680 (9680) = #9680/2:9.5
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 9680 blocks [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B]
--------------------------------------------------------------

22.32.37 #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 982
Prepare recorder [HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4120B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 19824640, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
9680 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41

22.32.37 #11 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Inizio ottimizzazione file

22.32.37 #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4177
Cache writing successful.

22.32.37 #13 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Ottimizzazione file completata

22.32.37 #14 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Inizio scrittura a 5x (6.925 KB/s)

22.32.37 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2345
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

22.32.37 #16 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8063
---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD+RW (9), Part Version: 3
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: re-writable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 26053F h
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Disc Application Code: 0 / 0 h
Extended Information indicators: 3 h
Disc Manufacturer ID: PHILIPS.
Media type ID: RW8
Product revision number: 0
Number of Physical format information bytes in use in ADIP up to byte 63: 32
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 00 03 50 48 49 4C 49 - 50 53 00 52 57 38 00 20 ...PHILIPS.RW8..
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

22.32.37 #17 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1694
Set remaining time: 2:47,282 (167282ms) -> OK

22.32.37 #18 Phase 98 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Avvia formattazione del disco prima della masterizzazione

22.32.37 #19 SCSI -1046 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1187
SCSI Exec, HA 5, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x03B88000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x30
Sense Qual: 0x05
CDB Data: 0x04 0x11 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x10
0x04 0x00 0x00 0x0F 0x30 0x05

22.32.37 #20 Phase 101 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Formattazione del disco non riuscita

22.32.37 #21 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 606
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

22.32.37 #22 CDR -1046 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1607
Disco illegale

22.32.37 #23 TRANSFER -27 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1607
Non è possibile utilizzare il Disc At Once

22.32.37 #24 Text 0 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1694
Set remaining time: 0:00,000 (0ms) -> OK

22.32.37 #25 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1836
Scrittura fallita a 5x (6.925 KB/s)


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.71 (0002), size=16877 bytes, created 17/07/2002 7.53.02
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 03/08/2004 21.59.44 (Adapter driver for rec)
File 'Drivers\sojuscsi.sys': Ver=3.41.0.0 built by: WinDDK, size=5504 bytes, created 28/09/2003 9.57.52 (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

ma NON riesco ancora a fare niente... vi prego aiutatemi!!!!! ho bisogno di fare dei dvd ma qui nn funziona na cippa

cosa divalo devo fare????
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Postdi embassy » 29/12/05 23:01

aggirnameti:
sono riuscito a capire una cosa... ma gradire un spiegazione logica da qlc

allora oggi ho comprato l'ennesimo DVd+Rw stavolta un TDK 4x e... LO FA!!! NON DA PROBLEMI E MASTERIZZA

indi sono arrivato alla conclusione che faccia casino con i dvd +/-rw a piu di 8X .. ma PERCHE'???? IDDIO???? COME FACCIO A RISOLVERE STO PRBLEMA???
i dvd che venbderanno saranno sempre piu veloci e io che faccio lo prendo in quelo posto??? come posso risolvere??? chiamo il supporto LG??? dite che mi possono aiutare

ps inizio ad odiare seriamente i PC

ciao
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